| "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
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| Subject: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:14 am | |
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AceCombat A Very Good Troll
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| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:17 am | |
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O Goncho Dungeon Keeper
Number of posts : 7943 Points : 1780
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:19 am | |
| "The Lesbians of Dakar: continuing to fuck for France"
How could I not sign up? | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:19 am | |
| Gonch joined a reflexion group about relationships between France and its former african colonies. | |
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Hector Consigliere
Number of posts : 1835 Points : 486
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:21 am | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:22 am | |
| I' m sorry fraser, it is a bit less exciting than lesbians... | |
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O Goncho Dungeon Keeper
Number of posts : 7943 Points : 1780
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:22 am | |
| lolol, well that's somewhat disappointing. | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:24 am | |
| Discours=speech Will you dare reading it?Indy, if you take some time to read it, i' d be interested to know about your opinion. | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:35 am | |
| ah, everybody left of course. | |
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O Goncho Dungeon Keeper
Number of posts : 7943 Points : 1780
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:38 am | |
| Well you did quite ruin it for me | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:39 am | |
| are you gonna leave the group now? | |
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Hector Consigliere
Number of posts : 1835 Points : 486
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:41 am | |
| I was reading! It's so long. I stopped halfway through. You know I'm right-wing these days so do you want my opinion? No, I don't really have an opinion on it to be honest. Some of the left press in Britain made out he said that colonizers weren't exploitative, but in that speech he said they were, but that some had good intentions, which I think is true. I'm not sure how racist a speech it is; it appears to be patronising, but then I didn't read all of it. What do you think? | |
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O Goncho Dungeon Keeper
Number of posts : 7943 Points : 1780
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:42 am | |
| Nah, I'm still a member of those other French groups I joined, this one will make a nice addition. | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:47 am | |
| I found it really really patronising:
"Africa’s challenge is that of all civilisations, of all cultures, of all peoples that want to protect their identity without isolating themselves because they know that isolation is deadly.
Civilizations are great to the extent that they participate in the great mix of the human spirit.
The weakness of Africa, which has known so many brilliant civilizations on its soil, was for a long time not being able to participate fully in this great engagement."
I don' t know how muwh the meaning is rendered in the translation but:
"Africa’s problem is that it lives the present too much in nostalgia for a lost childhood paradise."
= colonial view of african people being like grown up children, naive and dumb. What about african artists, scientists, philosophers...? | |
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Spectral Knight Well-endowed
Number of posts : 11084 Age : 38 Points : 3834
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:49 am | |
| Gave them bridges. LOL. What a peace offering.
"Right, we're gonna take six million Africans across the Atlantic, and put them to work picking cotton. To make up for this, we'll let you cross that stream over there. There's not actually anything on the other side, except desert, desert, shrubs, and a bit more desert, but it's something to do, I guess. Deal?"
Sarkozy's a bit of a joker. Clearly bat-shit mental, but well worth having in the international arena.
ScarletRope, Africa has no scientists, philosophers or even artists. Have you seen African 'art'? It's like something out of the stone age. | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:56 am | |
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Spectral Knight Well-endowed
Number of posts : 11084 Age : 38 Points : 3834
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:57 am | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:01 am | |
| I guess but they do exist, like they exist in every other continent. Africa is not just a victim. | |
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Spectral Knight Well-endowed
Number of posts : 11084 Age : 38 Points : 3834
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:06 am | |
| That's like saying *I* am an artist 'cause I do occasional scribbles on note pads at work. They're chancers, and shouldn't be compared to proper professionals.
Also tell that to Sarkozy. We've given them bridges, and look at them. Still stuck in the dark ages. Essentially, they are a victim.*
*AIDS victim most likely. | |
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Eve ~*Blessed Be~*
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| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:13 am | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
Number of posts : 2385 Age : 37 Points : 1009
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:14 am | |
| So you' re saying that there can' t be any african artist? | |
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Eve ~*Blessed Be~*
Number of posts : 9527 Age : 35 Points : -218
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:15 am | |
| He's a twit, let's not worry | |
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Spectral Knight Well-endowed
Number of posts : 11084 Age : 38 Points : 3834
| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:18 am | |
| No, of course there can. But there probably won't be any who could hope to match up to European standards (modern art excluded, which is a pile of toss, generally), at least not until they stop killing each other.
Eve - fuck off. | |
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Eve ~*Blessed Be~*
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| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:19 am | |
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Scarlet Rope Evangelist
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| Subject: Re: "Fraser Brown joined the group Le discours de Dakar : la continuité de la françafrique?" Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:21 am | |
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